Re: PalTel/ISP Draft Working Paper

["Sam Bahour" <sbahour@palnet.com>]

Michael,

I only replied to where I found the post made.  I don't think PALTEL 
mistakenly put it on ITSIG.

Sam

On 31 Jul 2001,, Michael Younan wrote:

> Is this a PITA matter or ITSIG
> 
> 
> If this PITA Matter why address ITSIG, why not address PITA members
> 
> If this ITSIG matter then leave PITA out
> 
> 
> There must be some line drawn here by PITA members
> 
> 
> We are either ITSIG or PITA
> 
> 
> Can some one decide from PITA
> 
> 
> Soon some of PITA confidential matters will seep to ITSIG and then
> what????????? or has it????????
> 
> Michael Younan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sam Bahour <sbahour@palnet.com>
> To: <Board@pita-palestine.org>; <tareq.maayah@ict.siemens.com>; Ahmed
> Abumarzouq <ahmed@p-i-s.com>; <myounes@hally.net>;
> <ibrahim_barham@safad.com>; Maan Bseiso <maan@palnet.com>;
> <ZahiKhouri@aol.com>; Mousab Khorma <mkhorma@hotmail.com>;
> <wnajjab@mcs-palestine.com>; <rohaifa@cabank-pal.com>; nael asad
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> <daoud.daoud@paltel.net>; Suleiman Mashriqi EE-mail"
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> <hzuabi@zaytona.com>; <leith@4san.com>; <ghiath@firstnet.com.jo>;
> <mohammad.ali@paltel.net>; AbdelRahman Omar <aromar@paltel.net>;
> <general@itsig.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: PalTel/ISP Draft Working Paper
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> After an initial reading of the first written PALTEL Internet Strategy (2
> yrs in
> the working and still in draft form) I notice language such as:
> 
> 1.  In one of Paltel's emails they state that "[their] 'Monopoly' is a
> fallacy",
> then in their proposed strategy they state:
> 
> "Given PalTel's current advantage as the sole supplier of backbone
> communication services.."
> 
> Humm, that sure sounds like a monopoly position to me...a real one, not a
> virtual or fallacy one.  For more on this aspect see attatched analysis from
> 16/9/2000, only a few weeks prior to Intifada.
> 
> 2.  "All ISP's must be licensed by ..."
> 
> - is this PALTEL's job to define?
> 
> 3.  "...within a reasonable and specified period of time. PalTel's target is a
> year."
> 
> Self-imposed, firm-specifc targets are good, country sector development
> targets are larger than any single monopoly operator's view of the world.
> 
> 4.  "All ISP's should not entertain..."
> 
> - Is it PALTEL that defines what other operators can and cannot do?
> 
> 5.  "..ISP's are not to provide, in any way shape or form, without the
> explicit
> knowledge and consent of PalTel.."
> 
> - Humm, in the post Sept 28 2000 period is PALTEL now the regulator too?
> 
> 6.  "...PalTel will have the right, and obligation, to target specific
> and/or all
> ISP's ..."
> 
> - to target??!!
> 
> I fully agree with Mr. Omar that we should met, as a sector, face to face to
> clear the positions on the table.  With the current complete paralysis of the
> PNA, and the historic deficiencies of the MOPT, maybe we can also discuss using
> some of PALTEL's profits to build an independent communications regulatory body
> as well, especially since competition is on the horizon (or already on the
> ground).
> 
> Regards,
> Sam
> 
> 
> On 30 Jul 2001,, AbdelRahman Omar wrote:
> 
> > Ibrahim,
> >
> > Thank you for your correspondence and your kind words.
> >
> > I included your attached document as a refresher and a recap. Also to put this
> > subject into context.
> >
> > I attached as per your request a Draft Working Paper outlining the
> framework
> > that I discussed with a number of your colleagues.
> >
> > I believe we are all in synch and on the same page in terms of our common
> > objectives and how to get there.
> >
> > There remains a few topics that require a dialogue, preferably face to
> face, to
> > iron out the details of our common understandings and basis for
> cooperation.
> > These include:
> >
> > - Mechanisms/Processes for tracking our programs, achievements and
> targets. -
> > Agree on joint Public Awareness, Public Relations and Advertising
> Programs. -
> > Incentives/Rewards for the better achievers. Call it Volume
> > Discounts....etc...together I am sure we can be very creative.
> >
> > I look forward to the opportunity to having such a dialogue to finalize
> > matters to our mutual, and the End User's, benefits.
> >
> > Ibrahim, please advise your colleagues about this correspondence and let's try
> > to expedite events and get the ball rolling. There are many challenges and
> > opportunities facing us all that are just waiting to be addressed.
> >
> > My best Regards,
> >
> > Abdel Rahman Omar
> > PalTel EVP for Tech Affairs.
> >
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________ >
> ____________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Ibrahim Barham >
> [mailto:ibrahim_barham@safad.com] > Sent: 27/May/2001 01:56 PM > To: >
> aromar@paltel.net > Cc: Maan Bseiso; wnajjab@mcs-palestine.com; >
> mkhorma@paltel.net; > zahikhori@aol.com; Sbahour; Board; Tareq Maayah > Subject:
> > PITA reply > > > Dear Mr. Abdel Rahman > > First of all, let me introduce >
> myself. I am Ibrahim Barham, the chairman of > board of PITA, and I myself and >
> all the board were so happy from the > feedback that we received from our ISP >
> members about the ideas that you were > presenting to them. And to follow up >
> what was discussed, here is attached > our reply to you depending on the >
> strategy that was sent to Paltel two years > ago and I was informed that you >
> received it already from our colleagues. > > We are looking forward to meet you
> > so as to finalize this issue for the > benefit of all parties and our
> community. > > > Best regards, > > Ibrahim Barham, PITA > Chairman > > > > > > >
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