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RE: (Fwd) Re: We lost a new Frame Relay @ Rafah
Dear Ahmad
 
Let's write them a letter today, and this letter we will ask them for their new strategy, we sent them ours. And after that we will ask them for a meeting to discuss both strategies. I know that there was a decision from the board asking the ISPs about their opinion, but let's make it and them for their own new strategy.
 
What do you think?
 
Regards,
 
Ibrahim
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Bahour [mailto:sbahour@palnet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:25 PM
To: Ibrahim Barham
Cc: Board@pita-palestine.org; maan@palnet.com
Subject: (Fwd) Re: We lost a new Frame Relay @ Rafah

Ibrahim & Ahmed,

We are losing the lead on this issue. Why this tone that we are working 24 hours...as if they put us in a spin or we don't know what we want?!! We know what we want and trying to play nice with a 100M USD monopoly is going to pinch PITA. We need to regain the initiative here. The ball should be back in PALTEL's court tomorrow before the close of business.

I go back to my last suggestion that we refer to the need for them to provide their plans, strategy, etc...IN WRITING. Also, our letters should be sent in better English, especially when we decide to send it to 100 peple at PALTEL.

Sam



------- Forwarded message follows -------
Date sent: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:14:52 +0200
To: "Abdel Rahman Omar" <aromar@paltel.net>, <ZahiKhouri@aol.com>,
<mkhorma@paltel.net>, <mkhorma@aol.com>, <leith@4san.com>,
<wnajjab@mcs-palestine.com>, <rohaifa@cabank-pal.com>,
"Haytham Zuabi" <hzuabi@zaytona.com>, <khalil.hamad@paltel.net>
From: Ahmed Abumarzouq <ahmed@p-i-s.com>
Subject: Re: We lost a new Frame Relay @ Rafah
Copies to: <management@palnet.com>, <nael.asad@paltel.net>, <muneeb@mecopal.com>,
isps@pita-palestine.org, Board@pita-palestine.org

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Dear All,

First of all, PITA Board, ISPs and many other individuals have
been working around the clock for the past week to come up with a strategy. I
send our draft strategy to Dr. Abdel Rahman and he replied back with three
points that he would like to see in the Draft. These point were added with some
modification to the strategy, In our board meeting this Saturday we will discuss
this draft and after the approval it will be sent back to Dr. abdel Rahman and
after Paltel approval we will announce a public workshop with Paltel and all
the ISPs to discuss the new strategy in public. In my opinion we are making
progress on an issue that has been lingering there for three years now.

My second point, having a public forum to exchange ideas without a
draft strategy that we all agree to is non sense we have done that tens of time
in Paltel HQ in Nabuls and in the Grand Park hotel in Ramallah, nothing
happened, just talk, so we are not going to do it again unless we have a general
understanding and basic agreement on these issues and we can work the minor
details later.


Finally, I hope by the next week we will have a mutually agreed
upon strategy that will be beneficial to both of us. If you would like to
address all the ISPs in Palestine just post to
isps@pita-palestine.org and to address the board of PITA post to
pita@pita-palestine.org and we will post it for you. Take care and thanks
for listening


At 04:38 ã 23/05/01, Abdel Rahman Omar wrote:
>Nael,
>
>Explanation please.
>
>MAAN,
>
>THE BALL IS AND HAS BEEN IN YOUR COURT SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE AND
>DISCUSSED THESE AND OTHER ISSUES.
>
>I ALSO BELIEVE IT IS THE SAME COURT AS FAR AS PIS, POL ETC ETC...ARE
>CONCERNED. WE WILL NOT DEAL WITH ONE ISP AT A TIME. YOU FOLKS DO NOT SEEM TO BE
>ORGANIZED OR HAVE A UNIFIED VOICE TO REPRESENT YOU OR SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF.
>
>WE REPEATEDLY REQUESTED A FORUM TO EXCHANGE VIEWS AND ARRIVE AT MUTUALLY
>ACCEPTABLE AND BENEFICIAL WAYS AND/OR CONDITIONS FOR WORKING TOGETHER WITH ALL
>ISP'S.
>
>YOU FOLKS SUGGESTED PITA.
>
>WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A REPLY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WAIT. BUT PLEASE DO NOT
>COMPLAIN IN THE MEANTIME.
>
>Regards,
>
>Abdel Rahman Omar
>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>_______________
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Maan Bseiso" <maan@palnet.com>
>To: <aromar@paltel.net>; <ZahiKhouri@aol.com>; <mkhorma@paltel.net>;
><mkhorma@aol.com>
>Cc: <management@palnet.com>; <nael.asad@paltel.net>; <muneeb@mecopal.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:10 PM
>Subject: FW: We lost a new Frame Relay @ Rafah
>
>
> > Dear Mr. Khouri and Mr. Omar...
> >
> > Please find below another case of unfair competition . This case is in
> > Rafah, how can we trust paltel to install the frame relay lines for us, if
> > they are telling our customers to dump us and take internet from Paltel.
>Is
> > this the synergy we are talking about
> >
> > I demand that you do something about it .. this has gone too far..
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Samer Sabri [mailto:samers@palnet.com]
> > Sent: 22/May/2001 04:50 PM
> > To: maan@palnet.com
> > Cc: Samer Sabri
> > Subject: We lost a new Frame Relay @ Rafah
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> > Salam Maan ...
> >
> > We sent an offer through Meco to a new Internet Cafe @ Rafah .. it was in
> > 22/4/01 and they gave us the acceptance @ 9/5/01.
> >
> > We sent to Paltel request for the F/R but they told us that they need a
>week
> > to install this service in Rafah. But in 20/5/01 when Paltel tech team
>went
> > there to Install the DTU @ the Internet Café they told him that they can
> > give him the same service in better price which is $320. After that he
> > called Mohamad at Palnet's office in Gaza and he told him that he want to
> > stop the order from Palnet and he want to take the F/R service from Paltel.
> >
> > What can we do with Paltel about that , and its not the first time they
>are
> > doing this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Samer
> >
> >
> >

Best Regards
Ahmed Abumarzouq, CPA
President & CEO
Palestinian Internet Services
WWW.P-I-S.COM
Tel: +(970) 8 2843197
Fax: +(970) 8 2843377
Some countries are still using the Israeli Code 972

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