Re: WHY CAN'T PITA DO MORE ??? RE: There is hope..., Al-Quds news paper 26/4/01

[Daoud Ibrahim <dibrahim@ccs-pal.com>]

Hi ,
Can I request the date of the meeting to be anyday exept Satardays and
Thursdays . I cannot attend if the day is either Satarday or Thursday and I
would like to attend the meeting.


Regards

Mashhour Abudaka wrote:

> Sorry, just to add we could request some one from HP to come to the meeting
> and give their explanation. They are member and no doubt HP gets a copy of
> this msg and we ought to listen to what they have to say on this.
>
> Regards
> Mashhour Abudaka
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mashhour Abudaka [mailto:abudaka@pita-palestine.org]
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:03 PM
> To: Members of PITA
> Subject: RE: WHY CAN'T PITA DO MORE ??? RE: There is hope..., Al-Quds news
> paper 26/4/01
>
> Dear Members,
> I have some private contacts from members requesting members meeting
> specifically on this issue.
> Please feedback if you like a meeting next Saturday 3.00 PM! , Place PITA
> office
> On the agenda
> 1- Ready to you PITA letter to Minister Abu Medain and up-date if any
> 2- What else PITA could do
>
> Regards
> Mashhour Abudaka
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Bahour [mailto:sbahour@palnet.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 6:32 PM
> To: Members of PITA
> Cc: Abudaka@pita-palestine.org
> Subject: RE: WHY CAN'T PITA DO MORE ??? RE: There is hope..., Al-Quds news
> paper 26/4/01
>
> Tareq,
>
> That falls perfectly in line with what I wrote:
>
> "...making a wider inquiry in hopes of gaining insight/awareness to what
> has/is happening..."
>
> Salaam,
> Sam
>
> On 6 May 2001,, Tareq Maayah wrote:
>
> > Greetings Sam and all,
> > Let us remember that HP is a member in PITA and it is only natural that
> > we inquire with them. We have not yet judged HP at all. The issue must
> > be tackled on the principle level and that can be done through different
> > measures like the one I mentioned in my first message. In addition, the
> > issue must be tackled on the individual level and firm actions must be
> > taken.
> > Once more this is important for PITA.
> >
> > Let us inquire with the HP local office. Maybe we get an answer that is
> > a relief.
> >
> > Tareq Maayah
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> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From:        Sam Bahour [SMTP:sbahour@palnet.com]
> >  Sent:        Sunday, May 06, 2001 6:13 PM
> >  To:  Members of PITA
> >  Cc:  Abudaka@pita-palestine.org
> >  Subject:     RE: WHY CAN'T PITA DO MORE ??? RE: There is
> > hope..., Al-Quds news  paper 26/4/01
> >
> >  Mashhour, Tareq and all,
> >
> >  If I may weigh in (God forbid) on this issue;-)
> >
> >  I agree with Tareq of the critical nature of this issue and I
> > also agree with
> >  Mashhour that we cannot play the role of the judge and
> > jury...given our legal
> >  system is just as demobilized as every other infrastructure
> > institution in the
> >  country, I am not holding my breath for justice to be served.
> >
> >  In the meantime, I suggest that we adopt Tareq's approach of
> > making a wider
> >  inquiry in hopes of gaining insight/awareness to what has/is
> > happening but
> >  we should not rush to put PITA in the role of the judicial
> > system.
> >
> >  Maybe Tareq or someone can volunteer to articulate the issue of
> > Palestine
> >  being "labelled" and multinational firms "potentially
> > contributing" to the mess
> >  we are in via a solid op-ed to the local media ... at the end of
> > the day we can
> >  only educate and pick our business partners.
> >
> >  ...just like in economics, if there was no demand for corrupt
> > practices supply
> >  would not be so abundant.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >  Sam
> >
> >
> >
> >  On 6 May 2001,, Tareq Maayah wrote:
> >
> >  > Mashhour, let us be clear, we all know what we are talking
> > about. And I
> >  > mean it. We need to ask HP to give us an explanation. The
> > issue is more
> >  > important than names. The issue is about PITA.
> >  > Tareq
> >  >  -----Original Message-----
> >  >  From:     PITA [SMTP:abudaka@pita-palestine.org]
> >  >  Sent:     Sunday, May 06, 2001 1:35 PM
> >  >  To:       Tareq Maayah; Members of PITA
> >  >  Subject:  RE: WHY CAN'T PITA DO MORE ??? RE: There is
> >  > hope..., Al-Quds news paper 26/4/01
> >  >
> >  >  Tareq,
> >  >  I am in agreement with the tone of your msg but very
> >  > disappointed to see you
> >  >  mentioning names. If we want to be a respectable country
> > surely
> >  > we cannot
> >  >  start pointing finger until there is a formal indictment and
> > a
> >  > verdict,
> >  >  which is not available in this case. I am sure you will not
> > be
> >  > happy if
> >  >  someone, God forbid, starts dragging you company name in some
> >  > un-acceptable
> >  >  financial deals! All what we have here are rumors and counter
> >  > rumors
> >  >  PITA has asked for details and we hope will we will get these
> >  > details. Also
> >  >  we can ask for transparent and procurement procedure.
> >  >
> >  >  Let us think how to deal with this matter definitely the PNA
> > has
> >  > a lot to
> >  >  answer on this subject.
> >  >  Regards
> >  >
> >  >  Mashhour Abudaka
> >  >
> >  >  -----Original Message-----
> >  >  From: Tareq Maayah [mailto:tareq.maayah@ict.siemens.com]
> >  >  Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:48 PM
> >  >  To: 'abudaka@pita-palestine.org'; Members of PITA
> >  >  Subject: WHY CAN'T PITA DO MORE ??? RE: There is hope...,
> >  > Al-Quds news paper
> >  >  26/4/01
> >  >
> >  >  Hi Mahhour,
> >  >  I am just wondering why nothing else can be done at this
> > time.
> >  > HP is a
> >  >  member of PITA and should immediately be asked to provide an
> >  >  explanation.
> >  >  This is a real test for PITA. Is PITA going to act when
> > needed
> >  > against
> >  >  practices that hinder the development of the sector. OR is
> > PITA
> >  > going to
> >  >  be another 3rd world country organization that provides lip
> >  > services
> >  >  only while its members (HP and others) are working against
> > the
> >  > benefits
> >  >  of the sector which they claim they would like to develop for
> >  > their own
> >  >  good.
> >  >  I  warn, that if this issue goes unchecked then all other
> >  > international
> >  >  companies will refrain from even looking at Palestine as we
> > will
> >  > all be
> >  >  "labeled".
> >  >  Please remember that this issue comes about when all donor
> >  > countries
> >  >  (and even Arab countries) are restricting their help to us on
> >  > the basis
> >  >  that we are corrupt. This case shows that international
> >  > companies are
> >  >  adding to the corruption. I propose that we send an urgent
> >  > message to
> >  >  the American consulate (commercial section) and inform them
> > of
> >  > the issue
> >  >  and ask them to provide clear directions to American
> > companies
> >  > to work
> >  >  in Palestine in accordance to a clear code of business
> > ethics.
> >  > We should
> >  >  also forward this letter to all other international and Arab
> >  > commercial
> >  >  sections in Palestine.  BUT most importantly, HP as a member
> >  > should be
> >  >  asked to clear its position or be expelled from PITA in a way
> >  > that
> >  >  clears our reputation. What would be the position of Paltel,
> >  > which we
> >  >  all fight its monopoly ( as an impediment to the development
> > of
> >  > the
> >  >  sector)?  If they see a member of PITA engaged in such
> >  > practices? DO we
> >  >  owe Patel an apology?
> >  >
> >  >  Guys, we need to act fast.
> >  >
> >  >  The above is only a personal opinion.
> >  >
> >  >  Tareq
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >          -----Original Message-----
> >  >          From:   PITA [SMTP:abudaka@pita-palestine.org]
> >  >          Sent:   Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:49 AM
> >  >          To:     Members of PITA
> >  >          Subject:        FW: There is hope..., Al-Quds news
> > paper
> >  > 26/4/01
> >  >
> >  >          Dear members,
> >  >          To keep you informed, PITA has sent a letter to
> > Minister
> >  > Abu
> >  >  Medain in
> >  >          connection to this article, PITA offered its support
> > to
> >  > the
> >  >  minister and in
> >  >          this letter PITA asked for further information
> > regarding
> >  > the
> >  >  case.
> >  >          Obviously, as a responsible organization we could do
> >  > nothing
> >  >  further in this
> >  >          regards except to request the governmental
> > departments
> >  > to have
> >  >  clear and
> >  >          transparent procurement procedures. As soon as we get
> >  > the
> >  >  minister reply I
> >  >          will keep you informed.
> >  >
> >  >          Meanwhile, if you have any question please do not
> >  > hesitate to
> >  >  directed to me
> >  >          or simply send it to the board or you can send it to
> > all
> >  > members
> >  >  at
> >  >          members@pita-palestine.org advocacy is one of PITA
> > major
> >  >  strategic
> >  >          interests, definitely PITA should not let this case
> > die
> >  > away.
> >  >
> >  >          Regards
> >  >
> >  >          Mashhour Abudaka
> >  >
> >  >          -----Original Message-----
> >  >          From: general-request@itsig.org
> >  >  [mailto:general-request@itsig.org]On Behalf
> >  >          Of Sam Bahour
> >  >          Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:21 PM
> >  >          To: general@itsig.org
> >  >          Subject: There is hope...
> >  >
> >  >          Read today, before tomorrow's edition is posted...
> >  >
> >  >          http://www.alquds.com/today/front/news2.html
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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