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Re: PalTel/ISP Draft Working Paper
Deal All,
As
an ISP I will take the majority of my services from Paltel ( and I do now
- E1s,Leased Lines ,Frame Rely,Internet- 90% almost), however I think I
should have the right to keep a redundant link even at extra cost to back
up my network, I can't afford to lose my subscribers' email because a
router is down somewhere in their network. this link should be as far
away from Paltel as possible.Most journalist in Gaza if not all
have three dial up accounts ( Hally, Palnet, PIS) and some of them have
account with Israeli ISPs why ? because when they need to send or receive
an email they want it to get to its destination right away regardless of
the ISP they are connected to. This is the case for the average user, how
about a major ISP that have hosting services email services for very
important clients. Speaking for our company we have invested tremendous
amounts to have three redundant links to the Internet. In regard to
access via Satellite I don't see what is wrong with getting downstream
from the states if the up link is Paltel. Access via satellite is gaining
ground every where. I know of at least three clients who have up / down
Vsat 80 cm dishes and connected to the internet at 400K down / 64K up and
they very happy with the service.
At 01:38 Õ 09/08/01, AbdelRahman Omar wrote:
Hi Ibrahim,
Thank you for your prompt reply. Following are quick answers to your
two
queries:
'Leased/used from PalTel only" means that ISP's who wish to work
with,
partner with PalTel should only use PalTel provided facilities.
Meaning
Leased lines, dial-up facilities, Internet Access etc. Meaning they
should
not use Israeli, or any other Telco facilities. That includes but is
not
limited to Internet Access via Satellites.
PalTel does not intend to provide Internet Access Services to End Users
of
ISP's that cooperate/ work with/Partner with PalTel. That should and will
be
the ISP's business to deal with their End Users. PalTel's Customers shall
be
only the ISP's. Internet End Users in turn will deal with their
respective
ISP's.
Ibrahim, I really would like to start the process of face to face
meetings,
to discuss and dialogue such queries and a myriad of others. Clarify
issues,
elaborate on others etc. That will be a lot faster.
I am sure there will be a lot of questions and answers. But we have
to
start.
I am therefore suggesting meeting this coming week, the week of August
11th.
Please name the precise date, time and venue.
Alternatively, PalTel will then issue an open invitation to all ISP's
to
meet at our premises and dialogue with all those interested in accepting
the
invitation.
Look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best Regards,
Abdel Rahman Omar
____________________________________________________________________________
___________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ibrahim Barham" <ibrahim_barham@safad.com>
To: "AbdelRahman Omar" <aromar@paltel.net>
Cc: <ZahiKhouri@aol.com>; "Mousab Khorma"
<mkhorma@hotmail.com>;
<wnajjab@mcs-palestine.com>; <rohaifa@cabank-pal.com>;
"nael asad"
<nael.asad@paltel.net>; <jamal.salameh@platel.net>;
"Daoud Daoud"
<daoud.daoud@paltel.net>; "Suleiman Mashriqi
(E-mail)"
<suleiman.mashriqi@paltel.net>; <farid.taha@paltel.net>;
"Nabil Tamimi"
<nabil.tamimi@paltel.net>; <khalil.hamad@paltel.net>;
"Haytham Zuabi"
<hzuabi@zaytona.com>; <leith@4san.com>;
<ghiath@firstnet.com.jo>;
<mohammad.ali@paltel.net>; <Board@pita-palestine.org>;
<sbahour@palnet.com>;
<tareq.maayah@ict.siemens.com>; "Ahmed Abumarzouq"
<ahmed@p-i-s.com>;
<myounes@hally.net>; "Maan Bseiso"
<maan@palnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:35 AM
Subject: RE: PalTel/ISP Draft Working Paper
> Hello Mr. Omar
>
> With reference to the subject above and to our promise to come back
to you
> with our position regarding your paper, here is attached some items
need
> your clarification.
>
> Waiting for your feedback.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ibrahim Barham, PITA
> President
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AbdelRahman Omar
[mailto:aromar@paltel.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:30 PM
> To: Board@pita-palestine.org; sbahour@palnet.com;
> tareq.maayah@ict.siemens.com; Ahmed Abumarzouq;
myounes@hally.net;
> ibrahim_barham@safad.com; Maan Bseiso
> Cc: ZahiKhouri@aol.com; Mousab Khorma;
wnajjab@mcs-palestine.com;
> rohaifa@cabank-pal.com; nael asad; jamal.salameh@platel.net;
Daoud
> Daoud; Suleiman Mashriqi (E-mail); farid.taha@paltel.net; Nabil
Tamimi;
> khalil.hamad@paltel.net; Haytham Zuabi; leith@4san.com;
> ghiath@firstnet.com.jo; mohammad.ali@paltel.net
> Subject: PalTel/ISP Draft Working Paper
> Importance: High
>
>
> Ibrahim,
>
> Thank you for your correspondence and your kind words.
>
> I included your attached document as a refresher and a recap. Also
to put
> this subject into context.
>
> I attached as per your request a Draft Working Paper outlining
the
framework
> that I discussed with a number of your colleagues.
>
> I believe we are all in synch and on the same page in terms of our
common
> objectives and how to get there.
>
> There remains a few topics that require a dialogue, preferably face
to
face,
> to iron out the details of our common understandings and basis
for
> cooperation. These include:
>
> - Mechanisms/Processes for tracking our programs, achievements
and
targets.
> - Agree on joint Public Awareness, Public Relations and
Advertising
> Programs.
> - Incentives/Rewards for the better achievers. Call it Volume
> Discounts....etc...together I am sure we can be very creative.
>
> I look forward to the opportunity to having such a dialogue to
finalize
> matters to our mutual, and the End User's, benefits.
>
> Ibrahim, please advise your colleagues about this correspondence and
let's
> try to expedite events and get the ball rolling. There are many
challenges
> and opportunities facing us all that are just waiting to be
addressed.
>
> My best Regards,
>
> Abdel Rahman Omar
> PalTel EVP for Tech Affairs.
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ____________
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ibrahim Barham
[mailto:ibrahim_barham@safad.com]
> > Sent: 27/May/2001 01:56 PM
> > To: aromar@paltel.net
> > Cc: Maan Bseiso; wnajjab@mcs-palestine.com;
mkhorma@paltel.net;
> > zahikhori@aol.com; Sbahour; Board; Tareq Maayah
> > Subject: PITA reply
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Abdel Rahman
> >
> > First of all, let me introduce myself. I am Ibrahim Barham, the
chairman
> of
> > board of PITA, and I myself and all the board were so happy
from the
> > feedback that we received from our ISP members about the ideas
that you
> were
> > presenting to them. And to follow up what was discussed, here
is
attached
> > our reply to you depending on the strategy that was sent to
Paltel two
> years
> > ago and I was informed that you received it already from our
colleagues.
> >
> > We are looking forward to meet you so as to finalize this issue
for the
> > benefit of all parties and our community.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Ibrahim Barham, PITA
> > Chairman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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